Vivek Spars With NBC Reporter

In a recent conversation between Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy and NBC reporter Dasha Burns, tensions ran high as they discussed the issue of white supremacy and racism in the United States. Ramaswamy, who has been vocal about his views on the topic in his book “Woke, Inc.,” challenged Burns on her use of the term white supremacy and cited federal data as a more reliable source.

This discussion brings to light a larger debate about the current state of race relations in America. While some may claim that white supremacy is a growing concern, Ramaswamy argues that the media and politicians are creating new waves of racism that are hindering the country’s progress towards the “Promised Land” that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke about.

As the conversation between Ramaswamy and Burns continued, Ramaswamy questioned the credibility of the Anti-Defamation League, which had reported a 38% increase in white supremacist activity. He also brought up the issue of selective reporting, pointing out that the media often ignores crimes committed by individuals of other races and focuses solely on cases involving white perpetrators.

But Burns pushed back, citing data from the FBI and claiming that denying the existence of white supremacy only pushes Black and Latino voters away from the GOP. She also brought up the 2015 shooting by Dylann Roof, a white supremacist, as an example of the danger posed by white supremacist ideology.

Ramaswamy, however, remained firm in his belief that the focus on white supremacy detracted from the real issues facing minority communities, such as inner-city violence and disparities in education and job opportunities. He believes that instead of obsessing over systemic racism, the country should be celebrating the progress that has been made towards racial equality and focusing on concrete solutions to address the remaining issues.

“Are we perfect? No. But are we as close as we’ve ever been? Yes, we have. To then obsess over systemic racism, to then obsess over white guilt on otherwise, we’re creating new waves of racism, Dasha, that we otherwise would have avoided right when we’re closest to having achieved what even the proponents of the Civil Rights Movement would have dreamed of,” Ramaswamy said.

“And I reject this left-wing narrative that’s creating more artificial division. So, I believe I will bring more Black and Hispanic voters into our movement not by sayin’ fake, poll-tested slogans but by speaking the hard truth that we’ve been imperfect in our past, but let us celebrate the progress we’ve made and reject the media’s cherry-picking narratives to actually get to the truth of the matter. And now, if we care about Black lives, the things we’re gonna do isn’t obsessing about white supremacy,” he continued.

One of the most interesting and controversial points in the conversation was when Ramaswamy brought up the Nashville transgender shooter manifesto, which was not released to the public. He questioned why this specific manifesto was being hidden, suggesting that it did not fit the mainstream narrative. This raises concerns over the media’s role in shaping public opinion and perpetuating certain narratives.

“I’m more than okay talkin’ about both. But what I’m askin’ is, “Why does the mainstream media suppress that one?” Why did the police suppress that one? Why was that the one shooter manifesto that, of all of the mass shootings, every other shooter manifesto has been released? I’m focused on that one because that’s the one that’s been hidden from us. And it comes back to the point of my candidacy and the way I’m gonna run this country: Trust the people with the truth. If it doesn’t match your narrative…” Ramaswamy said.

Ramaswamy also addressed affirmative action, stating that it is a debate that needs to be had and should not be dismissed as inherently racist. He believes that his honest and direct approach to discussing race and other controversial issues will attract more Black and Hispanic voters to the Republican party.

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